Comments on: Keepin’ it real for the Google Summer of Code students. http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/ Thoughts, musings, and rants by Karl Fogel Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:21:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-bleeding By: Karl Fogel http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-15752 Karl Fogel Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:35:13 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-15752 You're welcome! I'm still waiting to hear from the person who got the Easter Egg. It wasn't anything clever, just a statement that it was the Easter Egg (although I don't think I used that actual phrase), and a request to know more about the recipient's project. You’re welcome! I’m still waiting to hear from the person who got the Easter Egg. It wasn’t anything clever, just a statement that it was the Easter Egg (although I don’t think I used that actual phrase), and a request to know more about the recipient’s project.

]]> By: Lahiru http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-15748 Lahiru Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:59:47 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-15748 Hey.. What was the easter egg...! :D btw, the book is awesome.. I must say. Thanks a million..! Hey..

What was the easter egg…! :D

btw, the book is awesome.. I must say. Thanks a million..!

]]> By: Karl Fogel http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-3500 Karl Fogel Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:57:22 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-3500 Thanks, Penyaskito. Check out the Spanish translation, by the way, they've made a lot of progress: <a href="http://producingoss.com/es/" rel="nofollow">http://producingoss.com/es/</a> Thanks, Penyaskito. Check out the Spanish translation, by the way, they’ve made a lot of progress:

http://producingoss.com/es/

]]> By: penyaskito http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-3497 penyaskito Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:02:01 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-3497 Now Google Summer of Code is finished and I finished reading the book too, and I love it! Thanks again for signing it (and writing it, of course ;-) ) Thanks Karl Now Google Summer of Code is finished and I finished reading the book too, and I love it!
Thanks again for signing it (and writing it, of course ;-) )

Thanks Karl

]]> By: Karl Fogel http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2632 Karl Fogel Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:57:33 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2632 Augusto, Just FYI, I answered your question in a seperate blog post, here: <a href="http://www.rants.org/2007/07/11/answering-augusto/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rants.org/2007/07/11/answering-augusto/</a> Best, -Karl Augusto,

Just FYI, I answered your question in a seperate blog post, here:

http://www.rants.org/2007/07/11/answering-augusto/

Best,
-Karl

]]> By: rants.org » Blog Archive » Answering Augusto... http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2631 rants.org » Blog Archive » Answering Augusto... Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:47:29 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2631 [...] student named Augusto Pedroza posted a comment here recently, a comment containing such a large and complex question that I’ve decided to [...] [...] student named Augusto Pedroza posted a comment here recently, a comment containing such a large and complex question that I’ve decided to [...]

]]> By: Darmawan Salihun http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2375 Darmawan Salihun Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:52:52 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2375 The book is awesome. I've never been exposed through all of the aspect of opensource development especially its economics until I read your book. Anyway, beside a student, I'm an author myself too ;) (even only have been publishing one book so far - http://www.amazon.com/BIOS-Disassembly-Ninjutsu-Uncovered/dp/1931769605 -). Haven't check the easter egg though :) The book is awesome. I’ve never been exposed through all of the aspect of opensource development especially its economics until I read your book. Anyway, beside a student, I’m an author myself too ;) (even only have been publishing one book so far - http://www.amazon.com/BIOS-Disassembly-Ninjutsu-Uncovered/dp/1931769605 -). Haven’t check the easter egg though :)

]]> By: Augusto Pedroza http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2329 Augusto Pedroza Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:48:09 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2329 I've been following that too. I already read this one: The Promise of a Post-Copyright World. The more I read things about patents, copyright, open source, free source, few questions arise. Maybe you could share some of your points and perhaps indicate some articles that you might find interesting. My first question is: In what extent are patents, copyright important and necessary? Is it fair that a company or a person who invests precious hours of his own time make his work freely available? or even worse, his new idea might give to well established companies a way to explore a new idea and make a lot of money?. In the other hand Is it fair that a company that finds a cure for cancer may be able to patent that to make money while thousands of people suffer and die from this sickness?. I guess in matters of software my question really is, what should be allowed to be patented in order to avoid this huge mess caused by a current poor patent system? Second question: In your opinion, is there a perfect time to open a source code in order to obtain success as well as be competitive? Had google opened their ideas and source code in the beginning of its existence it would not have created such an empire that is able so sponsor great programs as this one (gsoc). Is it possible to measure positive points and negative points if Microsoft for example, decides to open all their code right now? I am a big fan of open source development and I have been trying to understand these points in order to show how companies fully based on the proprietary model are able to see their companies as part of a community. I want to show them the risks, the advantages and of course this new exciting way of producing software. Thanks Karl I’ve been following that too. I already read this one: The Promise of a Post-Copyright World. The more I read things about patents, copyright, open source, free source, few questions arise. Maybe you could share some of your points and perhaps indicate some articles that you might find interesting.
My first question is: In what extent are patents, copyright important and necessary? Is it fair that a company or a person who invests precious hours of his own time make his work freely available? or even worse, his new idea might give to well established companies a way to explore a new idea and make a lot of money?. In the other hand Is it fair that a company that finds a cure for cancer may be able to patent that to make money while thousands of people suffer and die from this sickness?. I guess in matters of software my question really is, what should be allowed to be patented in order to avoid this huge mess caused by a current poor patent system?

Second question: In your opinion, is there a perfect time to open a source code in order to obtain success as well as be competitive? Had google opened their ideas and source code in the beginning of its existence it would not have created such an empire that is able so sponsor great programs as this one (gsoc). Is it possible to measure positive points and negative points if Microsoft for example, decides to open all their code right now?

I am a big fan of open source development and I have been trying to understand these points in order to show how companies fully based on the proprietary model are able to see their companies as part of a community. I want to show them the risks, the advantages and of course this new exciting way of producing software.

Thanks Karl

]]> By: Karl Fogel http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2324 Karl Fogel Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:38:11 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2324 Thanks, Augusto, I really appreciate the kind words (and hope you'll let me know of any shortcomings you find in the book as well). For what it's worth, my main work these days is about spreading open source methods to areas outside software, see <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/" rel="nofollow">QuestionCopyright.org</a> for more. Thanks, Augusto, I really appreciate the kind words (and hope you’ll let me know of any shortcomings you find in the book as well).

For what it’s worth, my main work these days is about spreading open source methods to areas outside software, see QuestionCopyright.org for more.

]]> By: Augusto Pedroza http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2321 Augusto Pedroza Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:40:51 +0000 http://www.rants.org/2007/05/29/keepin-it-real-for-the-google-summer-of-code-students/#comment-2321 Hi Karl, I have been reading this book since I got it from Google and sometimes I wonder if you really realize how important this writing is going to be in a very close future. I don't know how you see it, but I see this as a new way of facing software engineer. I really see a great success for those companies who are able to absorb these concepts. Maybe your book is going to fill an existing gap, showing the principles of a new and more interesting way of producing software. Great job Hi Karl,
I have been reading this book since I got it from Google and sometimes I wonder if you really realize how important this writing is going to be in a very close future. I don’t know how you see it, but I see this as a new way of facing software engineer. I really see a great success for those companies who are able to absorb these concepts. Maybe your book is going to fill an existing gap, showing the principles of a new and more interesting way of producing software.

Great job

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