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		<title>By: rocksun</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-60613</link>
		<dc:creator>rocksun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesï¼Œ there are many nuances of U.S I don&#039;t know, thank you for your explanation.
Obama is really a world wide star, and the media usually only focus on the main character .

US is really a religious nation, and most of Chinese had no religious belief(I don&#039;t think the Confucian is a real religion, though most of us affected by the old culture more or less). We could not see the importance of pastor (Though I know some one, but I don&#039;t think he could affect me much ), religion occupied little part of our daily lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesï¼Œ there are many nuances of U.S I don&#8217;t know, thank you for your explanation.<br />
Obama is really a world wide star, and the media usually only focus on the main character .</p>
<p>US is really a religious nation, and most of Chinese had no religious belief(I don&#8217;t think the Confucian is a real religion, though most of us affected by the old culture more or less). We could not see the importance of pastor (Though I know some one, but I don&#8217;t think he could affect me much ), religion occupied little part of our daily lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59609</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah!  They did the oath again:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/roberts-and-obama-reunite-for-inaugural-do-over.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!  They did the oath again:</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/roberts-and-obama-reunite-for-inaugural-do-over.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/roberts-and-obama-reunite-for-inaugural-do-over.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59518</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock Sun,

You may not be aware of the controversy about Rick Warren (the preacher who delivered the invocation, before Obama spoke).  Some background:

Rick Warren is the pastor of a very large church in California (see his &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Warren&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia Page&lt;/a&gt;, though note that it does not reflect much of this controversy right now, because it is locked from editing).  That church was actually one of the first venues in which both Obama and McCain appeared during the campaign, for back-to-back interviews.

Rick Warren is also opposed to lesbian and gay marriage; if I recall correctly, he&#039;s also opposed to civil unions for them, and has made some disparaging comments about homosexuals.  Barack Obama generally supports lesbian and gay rights, such as non-discrimination laws and civil unions (though he does not support gay marriage -- we all wonder if this is because he really doesn&#039;t support it, or if he just thinks he couldn&#039;t get elected if he came out in favor of it).  Anyway, many people were disappointed when Obama selected Rick Warren to speak at the inauguration.

(Ayse et al: Rock Sun is in China and probably isn&#039;t following the nuances of U.S. domestic politics as closely as... well, I was going to say as closely as the average American, but then I realized he&#039;s probably following things much &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; closely than the average American.  Let&#039;s just say he&#039;s probably not following it as closely as you are :-) .)

-Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock Sun,</p>
<p>You may not be aware of the controversy about Rick Warren (the preacher who delivered the invocation, before Obama spoke).  Some background:</p>
<p>Rick Warren is the pastor of a very large church in California (see his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Warren"  rel="nofollow">Wikipedia Page</a>, though note that it does not reflect much of this controversy right now, because it is locked from editing).  That church was actually one of the first venues in which both Obama and McCain appeared during the campaign, for back-to-back interviews.</p>
<p>Rick Warren is also opposed to lesbian and gay marriage; if I recall correctly, he&#8217;s also opposed to civil unions for them, and has made some disparaging comments about homosexuals.  Barack Obama generally supports lesbian and gay rights, such as non-discrimination laws and civil unions (though he does not support gay marriage &#8212; we all wonder if this is because he really doesn&#8217;t support it, or if he just thinks he couldn&#8217;t get elected if he came out in favor of it).  Anyway, many people were disappointed when Obama selected Rick Warren to speak at the inauguration.</p>
<p>(Ayse et al: Rock Sun is in China and probably isn&#8217;t following the nuances of U.S. domestic politics as closely as&#8230; well, I was going to say as closely as the average American, but then I realized he&#8217;s probably following things much <em>more</em> closely than the average American.  Let&#8217;s just say he&#8217;s probably not following it as closely as you are <img src='http://www.rants.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  .)</p>
<p>-Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Ayse</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59517</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rocksun, the transcript that&#039;s hard to find is not Obama&#039;s speech, but that of the homophobe Warren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rocksun, the transcript that&#8217;s hard to find is not Obama&#8217;s speech, but that of the homophobe Warren.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59507</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayse, BUT IS IT STILL VALID IF IT&#039;S NOT ADMINISTERED AT NOON, AS SPECIFIED IN THE CONSTITUTION???  WE&#039;RE IN A POWER VACUUM HERE.  SOMEBODY CALL AL HAIG!

Rock Sun, thanks for the link.  And bnonews.com looks kind of interesting, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayse, BUT IS IT STILL VALID IF IT&#8217;S NOT ADMINISTERED AT NOON, AS SPECIFIED IN THE CONSTITUTION???  WE&#8217;RE IN A POWER VACUUM HERE.  SOMEBODY CALL AL HAIG!</p>
<p>Rock Sun, thanks for the link.  And bnonews.com looks kind of interesting, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rocksun</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocksun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched TV live , and the transcript appeared soon after Obama&#039;s speech.

http://www.bnonews.com/elections/?id=348</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched TV live , and the transcript appeared soon after Obama&#8217;s speech.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bnonews.com/elections/?id=348" rel="nofollow">http://www.bnonews.com/elections/?id=348</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ayse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure Warren said that there had been 44 peaceful transfers of power, too.  And my thought at the time was, &quot;I don&#039;t ever recall anybody implying that the Revolution was peaceful.&quot;

Colour me totally unsurprised that Fox News is in the forefront of asserting that if the oath is flubbed, it&#039;s not valid (for which there is no legal precedent).  And even if it weren&#039;t, it&#039;s not as if Roberts can&#039;t drive over to the White House tonight and re-administer it if the law required it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Warren said that there had been 44 peaceful transfers of power, too.  And my thought at the time was, &#8220;I don&#8217;t ever recall anybody implying that the Revolution was peaceful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Colour me totally unsurprised that Fox News is in the forefront of asserting that if the oath is flubbed, it&#8217;s not valid (for which there is no legal precedent).  And even if it weren&#8217;t, it&#8217;s not as if Roberts can&#8217;t drive over to the White House tonight and re-administer it if the law required it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59470</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ayse

Indeed -- but I think (haven&#039;t found a transcript yet) that Warren did specify &quot;peaceful&quot; :-).

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/01/fox_eats_wallaces_brain.php&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Talking Points Memo&lt;/a&gt;, the conspiracy theorists have already started, sort of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ayse</p>
<p>Indeed &#8212; but I think (haven&#8217;t found a transcript yet) that Warren did specify &#8220;peaceful&#8221; <img src='http://www.rants.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/01/fox_eats_wallaces_brain.php"  rel="nofollow">Talking Points Memo</a>, the conspiracy theorists have already started, sort of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
		<link>http://www.rants.org/2009/01/20/obamadorable/comment-page-1/#comment-59469</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike

Nice catch!

And yeah, can&#039;t believe that Roberts blew that one.  I wonder how often that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p>Nice catch!</p>
<p>And yeah, can&#8217;t believe that Roberts blew that one.  I wonder how often that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, power did transfer 44 times, but the first time was anything but peaceful, as Obama pointed out himself just moments later.  :)

Now wait for the conspiracy theorists to say that if the oath is flubbed, Obama isn&#039;t really president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, power did transfer 44 times, but the first time was anything but peaceful, as Obama pointed out himself just moments later.  <img src='http://www.rants.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now wait for the conspiracy theorists to say that if the oath is flubbed, Obama isn&#8217;t really president.</p>
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